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作者: wwanzing (w) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [爆卦] 令人氣憤的青年就業讚計畫內幕
時間: Thu Dec 4 22:50:50 2014
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青年就業讚計畫的內幕
最近在網路頁面上瘋狂廣告的「政府出錢學電腦」等字樣, 大致上的內容就是,
只要符合「資格」的青年,由各地就業中心完成「資格認定」後,
便可在兩年內於各民間機關進修想要的課程(如:巨匠、聯成等知名補習班等),
流程是先向民間機關繳交全部學費,最後完成課程時可向政府申請補助款。
而參與了全程的訓練後, 我在昨日接到無法申請補助的通知,
就此, 我對民間企業的招生伎倆已經不與置評,
但對公家機關的所作所為感到非常的痛心和氣憤
事情經過大致如下…
當下看到這則訊息,剛畢業的我也想試試看利用這個機會把一些業界需要具備的軟體能力
學起來,於是便向巨匠電腦尋求此計畫的諮詢。
巨匠小姐看似非常好心地告知這項計畫的資格認定條件,
覺得我可以符合的是其中一項是「於執行單位認定時,參加勞工保險投保部分工時者」,
因為一直有在阿姨的公司幫忙處理一些事情,也知道有投保,
但不清楚我的勞保狀況是否是部分工時,所以直接前往就業中心進行認定。
第一次的認定,是在新店就業中心,由就業中心的電腦連線直接查詢我的勞保狀況,
結果並未顯示部分工時字樣,而是一般的受雇狀態,但當下我也覺得那算了吧沒差…
隔天巨匠小姐便打來詢問認定狀況為何,並非常積極鼓勵我說可以馬上請雇主去勞保局
將勞保的薪資狀況轉為部分工時, 心裡其實也想把握這個機會上課的,
所以也聽了她的話, 在隔天8/14當天, 請阿姨去勞保局申請變更, 勞保局人員告知,
申請變更可能會需要幾個工作天才能生效,當時預估是九月初生效, 而就業中心的人員
才可以看到電腦上顯示的部分工時字樣。
這時,巨匠小姐就說, 我們快要沒有位子了耶, 一定要盡快通過資格認定快報名,
這時,我提出關於勞保局工作天的疑問時,她便告訴我說:
只要去勞保局申請一張你已變更資薪的證明,
有那張證明就業中心就可以不依據電腦呈現的勞保狀態
(勞保狀態要九月初才能生效並在電腦上呈現,在九月生效以前),
直接憑勞保單據申請資格認定。
並且告知一定要找新店就業中心的謝小姐認定, 強調她們之間有開會說好了。
之後便積極主動的說會直接與就業中心謝小姐聯絡我的狀況
並與謝小姐約定時間安排好時間請我過去辦理。
就這樣, 基於對於公務機關的信任,
心理想就算巨匠小姐在瞎掰說謊, 公務人員的流程一定是既定而不會出差錯的,
於8/19直接前往新店就業中心進行認定, 帶著勞保資薪轉換證明, 謝小姐也看了看,
直接認定合格, 由另一位辦理業務的先生蓋章。
接下來將近三個月的時間過去, 課程也全部結束,
當課程結束並繳齊所有所需文件資料後一日, 竟然接到謝小姐的電話說,
不好意思您的資格不符合, 我們發現你的部分工時勞保生效日是9/1,
而你認定當下是8/19日, 在認定當下的資格並不符合部分工時,
並抓著以下兩點跟我爭論:
第一,文件有註明:查詢勞工保險有一定空窗期,請誠實告知實際就業狀況。
質疑我當初沒有告知九月初才生效。並強調我已簽屬了同意這項計畫的切結書,
沒有辦法補救。所以已經交給補習班五萬五千多元的費用無法補助。
到這裡我深切確定我受騙了
以我的認知,
第一點,巨匠許小姐已告知過就業中心謝小姐我的狀況,
所以已經知道生效日要經過多個工作天才能生效並在中心電腦上查到這件事,
就算巨匠小姐根本也沒有聯絡謝小姐, 但我確實有告知我目前的勞保狀態,
並附上勞保文件證明, 證明我是8/14才變更身分,
所以在電腦查不到的狀況下並不會有所誤判。
而且以就業中心人員辦過無數案件, 他們怎麼可能會不知道勞保生效日是甚麼時候…
第二點
竟然要以電腦的送達資料為準, 那巨匠許小姐叫我開勞保證明去找你幹嘛,
就算巨匠又在唬爛, 就業中心謝小姐為什麼也完全沒有告知要以電腦作業為主,
並默認了那張證明而隻字未提的認定了身分。
請問你是公務人員你要認定哪一邊的資料會不知道嗎?
以我相信人性本善和對國家公家機關的信任,就算我對巨匠起了疑心,
但始終相信公務人員會在審查資料上遵守規則嚴格把關,
一定會細心的審查才會通過資格。
但到這裡我必須嚴重的懷疑巨匠小姐跟就業中心謝小姐有利益勾結和聯合欺騙的事實,
感覺是步入了兩方所設下的陷阱, 最後才簽下名同意了這份計劃。
事發後, 兩邊的人員,
巨匠許小姐跟就業中心謝小姐都在結訓後同時請了長達好幾天的假,
請問妳們是想逃避責任嗎?
新店就業中心的上層為勞動部勞動力發展署,
網站上也放了五件有關青年就業讚過去的請願案,都是以請願無效作為收場…
而內容皆是已認定資格, 而在上完全部的課程需要申請補助款後, 才否定資格認定,
而資格不符的原因皆是在第一次資格認定前已發生的事實,
為什麼第一次資格認定時你們查不到, 最後審核時才把問題通通丟出來?
此次計畫在申請的程序,尤其資格認定這一環, 就具有極大的爭議性。
在爆卦的同時, 尤其是今年度剛結訓完這段期間,
一定有很多關於補助爭議的受害者,
甚至是去年與前年發布請願的受害者,
如有意願的話希望可以一起想辦法用任何方式討回公道,
已經很可悲的覺得被企業騙就算了, 但這次是被國家機構耍得團團轉,
你能不生氣嗎?
青年就業讚計畫介紹:
http://ppt.cc/uKoR
勞動力發展署青年就業讚計畫訴願案件:
http://ppt.cc/kO3D
※註:有電視或媒體有報導者,請勿使用爆卦! 違者視為新聞篇數 超貼新聞劣
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作者: wwanzing (w) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [爆卦] 令人氣憤的青年就業讚計畫內幕
時間: Thu Dec 4 22:50:50 2014
這篇是代po,原po是Pattylee99
文長注意
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
青年就業讚計畫的內幕
最近在網路頁面上瘋狂廣告的「政府出錢學電腦」等字樣, 大致上的內容就是,
只要符合「資格」的青年,由各地就業中心完成「資格認定」後,
便可在兩年內於各民間機關進修想要的課程(如:巨匠、聯成等知名補習班等),
流程是先向民間機關繳交全部學費,最後完成課程時可向政府申請補助款。
而參與了全程的訓練後, 我在昨日接到無法申請補助的通知,
就此, 我對民間企業的招生伎倆已經不與置評,
但對公家機關的所作所為感到非常的痛心和氣憤
事情經過大致如下…
當下看到這則訊息,剛畢業的我也想試試看利用這個機會把一些業界需要具備的軟體能力
學起來,於是便向巨匠電腦尋求此計畫的諮詢。
巨匠小姐看似非常好心地告知這項計畫的資格認定條件,
覺得我可以符合的是其中一項是「於執行單位認定時,參加勞工保險投保部分工時者」,
因為一直有在阿姨的公司幫忙處理一些事情,也知道有投保,
但不清楚我的勞保狀況是否是部分工時,所以直接前往就業中心進行認定。
第一次的認定,是在新店就業中心,由就業中心的電腦連線直接查詢我的勞保狀況,
結果並未顯示部分工時字樣,而是一般的受雇狀態,但當下我也覺得那算了吧沒差…
隔天巨匠小姐便打來詢問認定狀況為何,並非常積極鼓勵我說可以馬上請雇主去勞保局
將勞保的薪資狀況轉為部分工時, 心裡其實也想把握這個機會上課的,
所以也聽了她的話, 在隔天8/14當天, 請阿姨去勞保局申請變更, 勞保局人員告知,
申請變更可能會需要幾個工作天才能生效,當時預估是九月初生效, 而就業中心的人員
才可以看到電腦上顯示的部分工時字樣。
這時,巨匠小姐就說, 我們快要沒有位子了耶, 一定要盡快通過資格認定快報名,
這時,我提出關於勞保局工作天的疑問時,她便告訴我說:
只要去勞保局申請一張你已變更資薪的證明,
有那張證明就業中心就可以不依據電腦呈現的勞保狀態
(勞保狀態要九月初才能生效並在電腦上呈現,在九月生效以前),
直接憑勞保單據申請資格認定。
並且告知一定要找新店就業中心的謝小姐認定, 強調她們之間有開會說好了。
之後便積極主動的說會直接與就業中心謝小姐聯絡我的狀況
並與謝小姐約定時間安排好時間請我過去辦理。
就這樣, 基於對於公務機關的信任,
心理想就算巨匠小姐在瞎掰說謊, 公務人員的流程一定是既定而不會出差錯的,
於8/19直接前往新店就業中心進行認定, 帶著勞保資薪轉換證明, 謝小姐也看了看,
直接認定合格, 由另一位辦理業務的先生蓋章。
接下來將近三個月的時間過去, 課程也全部結束,
當課程結束並繳齊所有所需文件資料後一日, 竟然接到謝小姐的電話說,
不好意思您的資格不符合, 我們發現你的部分工時勞保生效日是9/1,
而你認定當下是8/19日, 在認定當下的資格並不符合部分工時,
並抓著以下兩點跟我爭論:
第一,文件有註明:查詢勞工保險有一定空窗期,請誠實告知實際就業狀況。
質疑我當初沒有告知九月初才生效。並強調我已簽屬了同意這項計畫的切結書,
沒有辦法補救。所以已經交給補習班五萬五千多元的費用無法補助。
到這裡我深切確定我受騙了
以我的認知,
第一點,巨匠許小姐已告知過就業中心謝小姐我的狀況,
所以已經知道生效日要經過多個工作天才能生效並在中心電腦上查到這件事,
就算巨匠小姐根本也沒有聯絡謝小姐, 但我確實有告知我目前的勞保狀態,
並附上勞保文件證明, 證明我是8/14才變更身分,
所以在電腦查不到的狀況下並不會有所誤判。
而且以就業中心人員辦過無數案件, 他們怎麼可能會不知道勞保生效日是甚麼時候…
第二點
竟然要以電腦的送達資料為準, 那巨匠許小姐叫我開勞保證明去找你幹嘛,
就算巨匠又在唬爛, 就業中心謝小姐為什麼也完全沒有告知要以電腦作業為主,
並默認了那張證明而隻字未提的認定了身分。
請問你是公務人員你要認定哪一邊的資料會不知道嗎?
以我相信人性本善和對國家公家機關的信任,就算我對巨匠起了疑心,
但始終相信公務人員會在審查資料上遵守規則嚴格把關,
一定會細心的審查才會通過資格。
但到這裡我必須嚴重的懷疑巨匠小姐跟就業中心謝小姐有利益勾結和聯合欺騙的事實,
感覺是步入了兩方所設下的陷阱, 最後才簽下名同意了這份計劃。
事發後, 兩邊的人員,
巨匠許小姐跟就業中心謝小姐都在結訓後同時請了長達好幾天的假,
請問妳們是想逃避責任嗎?
新店就業中心的上層為勞動部勞動力發展署,
網站上也放了五件有關青年就業讚過去的請願案,都是以請願無效作為收場…
而內容皆是已認定資格, 而在上完全部的課程需要申請補助款後, 才否定資格認定,
而資格不符的原因皆是在第一次資格認定前已發生的事實,
為什麼第一次資格認定時你們查不到, 最後審核時才把問題通通丟出來?
此次計畫在申請的程序,尤其資格認定這一環, 就具有極大的爭議性。
在爆卦的同時, 尤其是今年度剛結訓完這段期間,
一定有很多關於補助爭議的受害者,
甚至是去年與前年發布請願的受害者,
如有意願的話希望可以一起想辦法用任何方式討回公道,
已經很可悲的覺得被企業騙就算了, 但這次是被國家機構耍得團團轉,
你能不生氣嗎?
青年就業讚計畫介紹:
http://ppt.cc/uKoR
勞動力發展署青年就業讚計畫訴願案件:
http://ppt.cc/kO3D
※註:有電視或媒體有報導者,請勿使用爆卦! 違者視為新聞篇數 超貼新聞劣
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