露天帳號被盜,跑去公司理論。 - 詐騙
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作者: divina (callas) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [閒聊] 露天帳號被盜,跑去公司理論。
時間: Fri Jun 26 11:02:59 2015
更新昨天露天主管來電後續
昨天傍晚接到露天主管來電,表示是那天接待我的小妹同事的主管,
言下之意是想問我意欲為何,我回她那天如果你也在會議室裡,
你不就知道我意欲為何了嗎?我意欲為何就是跟我網路PO一樣而已。
還原一下事發當天詳細情況,之前講過的不重述,
當天過完午休我回到12樓(真驚~)
坐在外面長板凳等了許久,小妹同事拿了一張紙來找我,
她要坐下來想在外面板凳上就把事情講完,
我問她:請問有有桌子的地方嗎?
我可能需要跟你們談一下,也有一些事宜需要你們協助,
她才帶我去五樓他們辦公室的會議室。
這邊要說明的一點是,我全程不吵不鬧不大聲,
對小妹頂多只是嚴肅告知,絕不是去潑婦罵街、翻桌抗議,
不然我在PCHOME 人來人往的門口躺地板打滾就好,
用不著請她帶我去僻靜之地詳細說明。
到達會議室之後,打開我的筆電,
拿出手機放桌上,當面告知小妹說:我現在告知您我會開啟錄音,以保障你我。
就開了錄音開始說,說的內容大致就跟我PO過的內容一樣,不重述。
沒講過的細節是這樣:
我跟小妹同事提出三個要求
1.幫我保全證據,以備之後上派出所或法院用。
2.陪同去就近配出所報案
3.不願陪同我就在貴公司打110報案,
告之我在貴公司遭到詐騙等不法事宜,請他們來處理。
這幾點我慢慢跟小妹同事講,
小妹同事也寫了筆記拿去給主管看,
之後來回報我說1.2點無法做,
第3點如果我要報警就請我報,
他們會有相關法務人員處理這個事。
小妹同事說主管回覆我要報警就報之後,
我說好那我打電話囉,小妹同事就離開,
我就一個人在會議室等,期間小妹同事不斷進來問我,
說主管問警察什麼時候來?進來問三次以上
我說我已經打了,警察隨後就到,
過一下還要進來問,請問是什麼時候到?有時間嗎之類的?
我說我怎麼會知道他幾點到呢?
我打完110,他們就會請就近人員過來,
如果我不方便在你們會議室等,我可以去你們門口等。
小妹同事說不用,可以在會議室等。
一開始在會議室講述事情的時候,我就對小妹同事致過意(主管來電我也講了一樣的)
我告訴她們,我知道你們基層同仁很難做,
你也只能不斷回我公司基本立場,
說公司沒問題沒異常,這可能是公司SOP,我可以理解。
我希望你明白我不是要為難你,
你今天下班出了公司就是一般人,
這些事你也有可能會碰到,也會受害。
如果我能碰到詹宏志,我當然同樣跟他講我當天以及PO文的所有話,
問題是我碰不到,當天我連小妹主管都碰不到了。
回到小妹主管來電
我在她們公司會議室待了差不多半小時,她從來沒出現過。
警察來以後我也是單獨跟兩位警察在會議室裡講述過程,
講完警察就說那我們回去做筆錄,出來時外面是有多一些人,
但是也沒半個人上來出聲表示什麼或介紹自己。
警察來的時候,打電話給我說卡在公司玻璃門外,
還我自己出去玻璃門那邊,我沒門禁卡出不去,
這時我外面也沒啥人,辦公室同仁也沒群集在那邊,
搞了老半天,才有人用員工卡幫忙開門,
我跟警察就回去會議室講事情,中間也沒半個人進來。
其實我也搞不懂,為什麼一家這麼大的公司,
有兩個配槍員警來辦公室,但是卻沒半個人出面表示任何意見或報個名號。
主管電話裡又說我就是那天你出來站在警察旁邊還後面那個,
我們想看能協助你什麼,結果你很快就走了。
(那這半小時你在幹嘛?)
我說我是跟警方回去做筆錄,不是什麼很快自己就跑掉不讓你們協助,
如果你想協助,可以陪同我們回派出所做筆錄呀!
你又不要,警察來後也沒進來也沒出聲呀!
總之她電話中後來就是說他們公司保證沒被駭,
我說你說你保證你們公司沒被駭就是真的,
那千千萬萬網友也保證他們沒被駭就是假的嗎?
你有證據證明你沒被駭嗎?
我當天也有跟你們小妹同事說(你看,你要是在裡面不就也聽到了嗎?)
我也不能百分之百排除是不是我的電腦有問題,
所以我願意提供我的電腦給檢方和警方作調查,
你們呢?你們願意提供你們的伺服器給檢方調查嗎?
不是你們說保證如何,絕無如何就好的,你要拿出證明。
事後我去請教過專業人士,他們表示這些一分鐘就能給你下標一百多件的,
當然都是機器人操作,人力哪有可能這樣下標。
一個平台有一堆機器人跑來跑去,就算客戶密碼不是從你們那邊外洩,
這樣還能叫做保證無異常嗎?
最後主管也無言,就留下聯絡方式,說有問題可以找她。
以上
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作者: divina (callas) 看板: Gossiping
標題: Re: [閒聊] 露天帳號被盜,跑去公司理論。
時間: Fri Jun 26 11:02:59 2015
更新昨天露天主管來電後續
昨天傍晚接到露天主管來電,表示是那天接待我的小妹同事的主管,
言下之意是想問我意欲為何,我回她那天如果你也在會議室裡,
你不就知道我意欲為何了嗎?我意欲為何就是跟我網路PO一樣而已。
還原一下事發當天詳細情況,之前講過的不重述,
當天過完午休我回到12樓(真驚~)
坐在外面長板凳等了許久,小妹同事拿了一張紙來找我,
她要坐下來想在外面板凳上就把事情講完,
我問她:請問有有桌子的地方嗎?
我可能需要跟你們談一下,也有一些事宜需要你們協助,
她才帶我去五樓他們辦公室的會議室。
這邊要說明的一點是,我全程不吵不鬧不大聲,
對小妹頂多只是嚴肅告知,絕不是去潑婦罵街、翻桌抗議,
不然我在PCHOME 人來人往的門口躺地板打滾就好,
用不著請她帶我去僻靜之地詳細說明。
到達會議室之後,打開我的筆電,
拿出手機放桌上,當面告知小妹說:我現在告知您我會開啟錄音,以保障你我。
就開了錄音開始說,說的內容大致就跟我PO過的內容一樣,不重述。
沒講過的細節是這樣:
我跟小妹同事提出三個要求
1.幫我保全證據,以備之後上派出所或法院用。
2.陪同去就近配出所報案
3.不願陪同我就在貴公司打110報案,
告之我在貴公司遭到詐騙等不法事宜,請他們來處理。
這幾點我慢慢跟小妹同事講,
小妹同事也寫了筆記拿去給主管看,
之後來回報我說1.2點無法做,
第3點如果我要報警就請我報,
他們會有相關法務人員處理這個事。
小妹同事說主管回覆我要報警就報之後,
我說好那我打電話囉,小妹同事就離開,
我就一個人在會議室等,期間小妹同事不斷進來問我,
說主管問警察什麼時候來?進來問三次以上
我說我已經打了,警察隨後就到,
過一下還要進來問,請問是什麼時候到?有時間嗎之類的?
我說我怎麼會知道他幾點到呢?
我打完110,他們就會請就近人員過來,
如果我不方便在你們會議室等,我可以去你們門口等。
小妹同事說不用,可以在會議室等。
一開始在會議室講述事情的時候,我就對小妹同事致過意(主管來電我也講了一樣的)
我告訴她們,我知道你們基層同仁很難做,
你也只能不斷回我公司基本立場,
說公司沒問題沒異常,這可能是公司SOP,我可以理解。
我希望你明白我不是要為難你,
你今天下班出了公司就是一般人,
這些事你也有可能會碰到,也會受害。
如果我能碰到詹宏志,我當然同樣跟他講我當天以及PO文的所有話,
問題是我碰不到,當天我連小妹主管都碰不到了。
回到小妹主管來電
我在她們公司會議室待了差不多半小時,她從來沒出現過。
警察來以後我也是單獨跟兩位警察在會議室裡講述過程,
講完警察就說那我們回去做筆錄,出來時外面是有多一些人,
但是也沒半個人上來出聲表示什麼或介紹自己。
警察來的時候,打電話給我說卡在公司玻璃門外,
還我自己出去玻璃門那邊,我沒門禁卡出不去,
這時我外面也沒啥人,辦公室同仁也沒群集在那邊,
搞了老半天,才有人用員工卡幫忙開門,
我跟警察就回去會議室講事情,中間也沒半個人進來。
其實我也搞不懂,為什麼一家這麼大的公司,
有兩個配槍員警來辦公室,但是卻沒半個人出面表示任何意見或報個名號。
主管電話裡又說我就是那天你出來站在警察旁邊還後面那個,
我們想看能協助你什麼,結果你很快就走了。
(那這半小時你在幹嘛?)
我說我是跟警方回去做筆錄,不是什麼很快自己就跑掉不讓你們協助,
如果你想協助,可以陪同我們回派出所做筆錄呀!
你又不要,警察來後也沒進來也沒出聲呀!
總之她電話中後來就是說他們公司保證沒被駭,
我說你說你保證你們公司沒被駭就是真的,
那千千萬萬網友也保證他們沒被駭就是假的嗎?
你有證據證明你沒被駭嗎?
我當天也有跟你們小妹同事說(你看,你要是在裡面不就也聽到了嗎?)
我也不能百分之百排除是不是我的電腦有問題,
所以我願意提供我的電腦給檢方和警方作調查,
你們呢?你們願意提供你們的伺服器給檢方調查嗎?
不是你們說保證如何,絕無如何就好的,你要拿出證明。
事後我去請教過專業人士,他們表示這些一分鐘就能給你下標一百多件的,
當然都是機器人操作,人力哪有可能這樣下標。
一個平台有一堆機器人跑來跑去,就算客戶密碼不是從你們那邊外洩,
這樣還能叫做保證無異常嗎?
最後主管也無言,就留下聯絡方式,說有問題可以找她。
以上
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