對於"娘"這個字的觀感 - 服飾搭配

By Lauren
at 2010-05-24T15:24
at 2010-05-24T15:24
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由於在原討論串已經嚴重離題
我就把那討論串的資料移到這裡,
大家不妨討論討論,
在某篇討論西裝的地方,
由於我推了這句文
看你怎麼穿,正常西裝至少過半臀,娘系西裝則到腰沒關係
引起了版眾的不悅,
嗯...原來我惹人厭很久了
可是我記得都有說出反對的原因而沒單純批評啊..
唯一有印象的就是推薦美國買品牌那篇胡亂講一通被版友指證
不是那麼記仇吧..
gash748748大,你的推文就沒複製過來了,
你的推文沒有離題,就留在原文了^^"
以下是我的回應
沒過臀的本來就沒有成熟感了,這句話有問題嗎?
DH西裝都至少到1/3臀....其他歐美Runaway更不用說了
我也不覺得娘系這形容詞是缺點,
我也很愛穿,如果你們不能接受的話,
我可以道歉沒問題。對不起,以後不會用這形容詞
不過我很好奇的是,
說女生穿得很男孩味不會有人有意見,男生穿的娘味就是污辱?
今天我不是用Gay這種常被引申為負面意義的形容詞,
很好奇為何反應如此大,我倒是覺得男生穿的娘味在這社會是種突破,
是打破十八世紀工業革命以來所逐漸建構的男女刻板服裝印象。
附註:
我似乎沒有解釋為何超短板為娘系,至少在歐美(亞洲沒研究)
只有女裝才會做到如此短版,既然男生去穿對人(好啦,歪國人)來說是女裝的超短版
被形容為娘氣(至少以單品而言),又有何問題呢?
扯搭配扯不完,真正的BoyFriend Jeans,還不是有一堆女生可以穿得很辣,
但你會說BoyFriend Jeans本身很性感嗎?
另外,說單品娘,我還是不覺得我價值觀狹隘,謝謝。
(偷偷排版以及改錯字)
以下是附合我的:
看來這個用詞仍屬於一個過渡的地方,
我也一直很好奇,
當男生開始嘗試女裝的搭配,
卻無法接受女性化的形容詞,
相較於女性的部分接受(男孩OK,男人婆out)
這中間是否有社會上的壓力?
我本身學穿搭的時間還不久,
大約九個月而已,
雖然期間有自以為是的去讀了一些關於穿著社會傾向的論文
但相比版上眾神人,
無疑是班門弄斧,
希望我開這篇能拋磚引玉,
引來更多真正鞭闢入裡的文章。
謝謝
另外,偷偷感謝一下TSFM大,
他真的省了我非常非常多的力氣找尋搭配的雛形
--
我就把那討論串的資料移到這裡,
大家不妨討論討論,
在某篇討論西裝的地方,
由於我推了這句文
看你怎麼穿,正常西裝至少過半臀,娘系西裝則到腰沒關係
引起了版眾的不悅,
→ DKer:樓上好像說得很厲害 05/24 11:14
推 youngpool:娘系西裝的說法是怎麼回事? 05/24 11:22
→ youngpool:一個人散發出來的感覺又不是只有服飾能決定05/24 11:23
噓 say29217074:純噓djo 娘系西裝是什麼? 05/24 11:26
→ siler:娘系西裝是什麼?~ 願聞其詳~ 05/24 11:29
→ WILCOX33:大家習慣就好,djo推文很嗆已經不是一兩天的事了 05/24 12:16
嗯...原來我惹人厭很久了
可是我記得都有說出反對的原因而沒單純批評啊..
唯一有印象的就是推薦美國買品牌那篇胡亂講一通被版友指證
不是那麼記仇吧..
→ xemext:這樣就叫娘,真狹隘的價值觀 05/24 12:28
gash748748大,你的推文就沒複製過來了,
你的推文沒有離題,就留在原文了^^"
以下是我的回應
沒過臀的本來就沒有成熟感了,這句話有問題嗎?
DH西裝都至少到1/3臀....其他歐美Runaway更不用說了
我也不覺得娘系這形容詞是缺點,
我也很愛穿,如果你們不能接受的話,
我可以道歉沒問題。對不起,以後不會用這形容詞
不過我很好奇的是,
說女生穿得很男孩味不會有人有意見,男生穿的娘味就是污辱?
今天我不是用Gay這種常被引申為負面意義的形容詞,
很好奇為何反應如此大,我倒是覺得男生穿的娘味在這社會是種突破,
是打破十八世紀工業革命以來所逐漸建構的男女刻板服裝印象。
附註:
我似乎沒有解釋為何超短板為娘系,至少在歐美(亞洲沒研究)
只有女裝才會做到如此短版,既然男生去穿對人(好啦,歪國人)來說是女裝的超短版
被形容為娘氣(至少以單品而言),又有何問題呢?
扯搭配扯不完,真正的BoyFriend Jeans,還不是有一堆女生可以穿得很辣,
但你會說BoyFriend Jeans本身很性感嗎?
另外,說單品娘,我還是不覺得我價值觀狹隘,謝謝。
(偷偷排版以及改錯字)
以下是附合我的:
推 say29217074:沒過臀感覺不成熟是真的05/24 12:39
推 aca0330scott:娘是一般人對男生穿著的負面觀感說詞05/24 13:41
推 NiceGuyOrz:秀氣也會被說娘啊05/24 13:43
推 codo:說女生是男人婆,好像已經是最難聽的負面觀感說詞?05/24 13:52
推 miracle1215:最好是有男生喜歡被說娘啦 05/24 14:09
推 lovemay:有個男性朋友都說他自己內心住著小公主.....05/24 14:12
推 MI6:女生有男孩氣似乎不是什麼貶義 男生娘很像很多男生便無法接受05/24 14:14
→ MI6:認為這有損男子氣概 分明標準差太多 我贊成說娘不是負面形容05/24 14:15
看來這個用詞仍屬於一個過渡的地方,
我也一直很好奇,
當男生開始嘗試女裝的搭配,
卻無法接受女性化的形容詞,
相較於女性的部分接受(男孩OK,男人婆out)
這中間是否有社會上的壓力?
我本身學穿搭的時間還不久,
大約九個月而已,
雖然期間有自以為是的去讀了一些關於穿著社會傾向的論文
但相比版上眾神人,
無疑是班門弄斧,
希望我開這篇能拋磚引玉,
引來更多真正鞭闢入裡的文章。
謝謝
另外,偷偷感謝一下TSFM大,
他真的省了我非常非常多的力氣找尋搭配的雛形
--
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